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cadeau
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 Posted - 12/26/2005 : 04:05:41
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I just received my P1510D a week ago and am having a hard time making the unit go to hibernate. Here the breakdown:
- Running XP TabletPC 2005 edition with SP2
- Hibernate is enabled in the power applet in the control panel
- Wake on LAN is DISABLED in the BIOS
- PC is set to go to standby after 5 min and hibernate after 10 minutes (in control panel | power options)
- After 5 minutes, it goes in standby (as expected).
- After EXACTLY another 5 minutes, the computer resumes from suspend and the windows desktop is displayed as it was before the standby. It does not go to hibernate at all.
- I tried changing the delay to 20 minutes, and regardless of the time I put there, it always does the same thing: instead of going to hibernate, it just wakes up from standby.
- If I set it so that it NEVER goes in standby and goes to hibernate after 5 minutes, it does go to hibernate without a glitch.
- Hibernate works fine when invoked manually too
It seems as though whenever the "hibernate timeout" is reached, it wakes up the PC to go to hibernate, but waking up the PC resets the idle timer as well, so it resumes from standby, never going into hibernation!
Any thoughts/ ideas how to fix this? Does Fujitsu offer a specific/optimized power manager for the P1510D?
Thx! |
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DonaldGoh
Starting Member
11 Posts |
Posted - 12/26/2005 : 08:34:38
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I do not face this issue with my P1510 with TabletPC OS.
I am able to hibernate.
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toddm
Junior Member
134 Posts |
Posted - 12/28/2005 : 23:09:09
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| I can't even get mine to go into standby unless I press the button so you're a step ahead of me. I've suspected the finger print reader software as being a potential trouble maker. I was able to go into standby with it unloaded, but even this wasn't reliable. Maybe the hibernate and my standby problems have a similar cause. |
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cadeau
Starting Member
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Posted - 01/09/2006 : 12:13:11
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Well, after talking with Fujitsu's 3rd level of support about this, they have finally admitted that there is a limitation on the P1510D that does NOT affect the other TabletPC/notebooks that they manufacture. Basically, the unit CAN NOT go to hibernate from standby mode.
It can go directly to standby without issues; it can also go directly go to hibernate without issues, but if you've set the power settings (in control panel) to go to standby and then go to hibernate after a little bit, the unit simply wakes up from standby and does not go to hibernate at all.
This is a new limitation that they had not been made aware of as of yet. There are no ways around it yet (they don't know if it's a hardware or software limitation, so don't hold your breath for a fix).
My suggestion is to do the following 2 steps:
1- set the standby to whatever delay you want and set the hibernate delay to "Never". That way if you leave your unit in standby too long, it does not risk waking up by itself and draining your battery.
2- Then, in the "Advanced" tab, set the power button default behavior to hibernate and same thing for when you close the lid of the computer. That way, to minimize the drain on your battery, just close the lid.
With these settings, if you leave you computer unattended with the screen open, it will go to standby and stay in standby. If you're not going to be using it for a while, press the power button or close the lid and it will go to hibernate (without going to standby first).
For more details about the difference between standby and hibernate, check out Microsoft's support site. A simple overview can also be found here: http://channels.lockergnome.com/windows/archives/20051209_standby_or_hibernate_xp.phtml
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blade
Starting Member
USA
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Posted - 01/09/2006 : 12:20:51
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Excellent work cad! Perhaps this should be made a sticky as it not only contains a new problem with the fujitsu but a simple, albiet temporary, fix.
thanks
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LeoG
Administrator
Switzerland
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Posted - 01/09/2006 : 14:51:18
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Duly stickified !
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kevinpt
Starting Member
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Posted - 02/05/2006 : 15:26:47
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| I know this isn't much help for the tablet PC users, but my older XP based P1510 is able to go into hibernation from standby with no problems. |
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arebelspy
Junior Member
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Posted - 02/05/2006 : 17:29:49
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Originally posted by kevinpt
I know this isn't much help for the tablet PC users, but my older XP based P1510 is able to go into hibernation from standby with no problems.
Ditto. :)
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MrMisanthrope
Junior Member
USA
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Posted - 02/07/2006 : 21:32:42
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Welp, I usually initally configure my power to the above config, so as a test I went back to "default".
I've got the hibernate problem too. Odd. Oh well, back to my normal config (close lid, no action, standy at 10, power button hibernate).
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wooxuexue
Starting Member
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Posted - 10/24/2006 : 01:42:06
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Geeze, now I know why my P1510 is always *hot* when I take it out from the bag.
Sooner or later, some house will get burned down because of this. And if this happened to be you, consider yourself a lottery winner and contact a laywer immediately :-) |
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NuovoTech
Senior Member Member
USA
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Posted - 12/01/2006 : 12:01:05
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I noticed the battery was draining big time after hibernating(discussed in other threads) my P1610. I applied the Micro$oft KB918005 USB hotfix for this & the issue has greatly improved. 
I also noticed in my BIOS under Advanced/Misc Confiourations there was a setting called "Auto Save to Disk" which seems to address the issue of going from standby to hibernate discussed by cadeau. Was this setting added to the newer P1610 BIOS, or is that in your P1510 BIOS also?  |
Edited by - NuovoTech on 12/01/2006 12:07:01 |
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CommanderData
Starting Member
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Posted - 12/08/2006 : 07:58:35
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Originally posted by NuovoTech
I noticed the battery was draining big time after hibernating(discussed in other threads) my P1610. I applied the Micro$oft KB918005 USB hotfix for this & the issue has greatly improved.
I also noticed in my BIOS under Advanced/Misc Confiourations there was a setting called "Auto Save to Disk" which seems to address the issue of going from standby to hibernate discussed by cadeau. Was this setting added to the newer P1610 BIOS, or is that in your P1510 BIOS also?
KB918005 comes pre-installed on the P1610, you did not need to install it again. I noted this in another thread where a tablet PC memory leak fix KB# was mentioned too. Fujitsu did a good job setting things up so that these old hotfixes are all pre-installed. Something else must have helped you. Did you change any BIOS settings?
On a related note, what I have trouble with is waking from Hibernate. When starts to come back on you get the standard bar-graph screen for resuming, then the screen goes blank for a while. The hard drive light may blink occasionally, but it is not "loading" anything significant. Finally, after a minute or two the screen will light up and let me log into windows.
Does anyone else have this problem? I like to use hibernate rather than sleep when travelling so the battery won't run down while idle in my laptop bag, but this is really annoying. |
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NuovoTech
Senior Member Member
USA
1312 Posts |
Posted - 12/08/2006 : 14:20:30
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KB918005 comes pre-installed on the P1610, you did not need to install it again...Something else must have helped you. Did you change any BIOS settings?
Yes, you're right I just checked, I tweaked BIOS a tad...disabled my LAN & set ACPI to Level2.
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what I have trouble with is waking from Hibernate...Does anyone else have this problem?
Never had any problems waking from Hibernate, tho I'll shutdown while travelling due to lower battery drain issue discussed here. |
Edited by - NuovoTech on 12/08/2006 14:30:51 |
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jkim
Junior Member
USA
161 Posts |
Posted - 12/27/2006 : 00:25:52
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| Hopefully the "sleep" mode on Vista will address some of these issues. |
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NuovoTech
Senior Member Member
USA
1312 Posts |
Posted - 02/08/2007 : 13:12:27
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I finally called Fujitsu tech support about the hibernate battery drain issue. They said they're aware of it, but it's an OS issue. I countered that if you search the Micro$oft KB you find nothing about that, other than the KB918005 USB hotfix. M$ also implies the final power state after hibernation or shutdown is the same, ie all that's different is the dumping of memory to HDD file during hibernation. Fujitsu insists there is a power state difference & that's causing this noticeable drain problem
Bottom line, don't expect a BIOS fix on this issue...  |
Edited by - NuovoTech on 02/08/2007 13:14:34 |
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purpleamy
Starting Member
USA
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Posted - 02/14/2007 : 21:44:05
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Originally posted by CommanderData
[quote]Originally posted by NuovoTech
On a related note, what I have trouble with is waking from Hibernate. When starts to come back on you get the standard bar-graph screen for resuming, then the screen goes blank for a while. The hard drive light may blink occasionally, but it is not "loading" anything significant. Finally, after a minute or two the screen will light up and let me log into windows.
My P1510D (XP SP2 - 512MB RAM) does this intermittently when resuming from Hibernate or Sleep. The only trigger I've isolated seems to be Firefox, generally when I have a lot of tabs open. In the year or so I've had this machine, it's not ever shown the issue when Firefox isn't running, although that isn't particularly common. Firefox 1.5 and 2.0 both show it. Sometimes it seems that the problem is worse if the machine has been off for a few hours or days rather than a few minutes, but that aspect is not consistant. Otherwise, I seem to be able to load the machine down with a heavily without this issue popping up.
Microsoft Bootvis records my startup time as a few seconds - so whatever is causing my trouble is happening before it starts recording (early in the driver wakeup sequence.) I seem to see a delay between 5 seconds and 1 minute before the Resuming Windows screen clears, and often several minutes before I see anything but a black screen. Once I start seeing GUI elements, they sometimes take 10-15 seconds to fully paint and for my applications to become responsive. |
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NuovoTech
Senior Member Member
USA
1312 Posts |
Posted - 02/18/2007 : 14:16:49
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Maybe the hibernation battery drain issue is OS related as Fujitsu support insists, at any rate it does exist in other mini-laptops. Below is quoted from a review of OQO1+. quote:
The OQO community has recently become aware of the "battery drain under hibernation" issue. This issue is also present in some of the new UMPCs and some laptops. It involves the system not adequately shifting to very-low-power consumption mode when you put it into hibernate mode. Instead of losing approximately the same amount of charge that the battery would if the unit were shut off, the OQO and these other machines continue to draw power from the battery at a rate of about 25% over six hours...
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MilanoRex
Starting Member
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Posted - 04/30/2007 : 21:39:44
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| I'm running Vista Ultimate and The sleep and hibernate functions work great on my p1510. Even hibernate from Sleep works. |
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NuovoTech
Senior Member Member
USA
1312 Posts |
Posted - 04/30/2007 : 22:43:32
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I'm running Vista Ultimate and The sleep and hibernate functions work great...
Does your battery discharge much when it's in hibernation? |
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MilanoRex
Starting Member
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Posted - 05/01/2007 : 07:49:16
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Originally posted by NuovoTech
Does your battery discharge much when it's in hibernation?
I just let it hibernate for 6 hours, and it only lost 1%. |
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bnaflyer
Starting Member
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Posted - 10/21/2007 : 01:01:57
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I've got a 1510D that I just acquired. I can't keep it in either STANDBY or Hibernate modes. After 10 seconds or so it powers back up and in green letters says: INTERNAL POINTING DEVICE: ENABLE.
What do I need to do to disable that device to keep it from restarting when not desired?
Thanks |
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bungee
Starting Member
Singapore
18 Posts |
Posted - 10/21/2007 : 06:25:35
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That's not normal... try a factory (software) restore. If that doesn't work, you need to bring it in to Fujitsu.
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bnaflyer
Starting Member
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Posted - 10/21/2007 : 17:48:51
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| How exactly does the factory (software) restore work? Is there a reset button located on the device somewhere? Thanks for the info! |
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